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#95416 - 10/27/15 07:38 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
XenonMan Offline
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As Outlaws we are not your average person shopping for electronics. High end means a lot of things to a lot of different people. Based on what we know from the announcement there is nothing about room correction. I am not sure how much processing power will be left over if both Atmos and DTS-X are on board. Although Outlaw tried unsuccessfully to bring Trinnov to home theater, they have in the past only included basic speaker setup algorithms in their processors. Without further info from Outlaw we will have to wait to know the answers. I am not holding my breath.
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Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#95418 - 10/27/15 08:34 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
TL5 Offline
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Registered: 03/25/15
Posts: 30
Originally Posted By: XenonMan
As Outlaws we are not your average person shopping for electronics. High end means a lot of things to a lot of different people. Based on what we know from the announcement there is nothing about room correction. I am not sure how much processing power will be left over if both Atmos and DTS-X are on board. Although Outlaw tried unsuccessfully to bring Trinnov to home theater, they have in the past only included basic speaker setup algorithms in their processors. Without further info from Outlaw we will have to wait to know the answers. I am not holding my breath.


But don't forget - before the 978 was cancelled it was to include XT32...

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#95419 - 10/27/15 08:40 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
XenonMan Offline
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Yes but it didn't have to contend with either Atmos or DTS-x.
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#95424 - 10/28/15 05:43 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
Posts: 619
Loc: El Cajon, California
I know this has been hashed out many, many times but I can't help but state it: For the vast majority of folks I don't think these new complex advanced features are necessary. I bet if we did a poll of Outlaw's customers (different from folks in the Saloon) most folks have 5.1 or 7.1 systems and all they want is excellent audio, reliability, proven room correction, compatibility with new TV technology and easier connectivity to sources via HDMI. IMO Outlaw is getting wrapped around the axle trying to accommodate features that will be used by a select few customers and they will miss the window once again. It is deja vu all over again!
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#95425 - 10/28/15 06:09 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
renov8r Offline
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Registered: 11/13/02
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Loc: Illinois
There is really no evidence to suggest that any "complex advanced features" are what are causing the delays with the new pre-pro.

It is entirely possible that there are rather mundane production issues related to things that have nothing to do with how simple / complex the product is and might be resolved very quickly. (Please lets hope it is not another contract manufacture getting pressured by a fearful mainline brand...)

Personally I think it is admirable that the leadership of Outlaw Audio does as much as they can to bring high quality products to market at a very attractive price; the trend for too many brick & mortar AV dealers is to move increasingly toward prices that do much to kill off all but the wealthiest buyers.

I look forward to news of the availability of their latest product and given the relative stabilization of video standards and audio the lifespan of these products could very well fit with the admirably long lived amplifiers that they've built their reputation upon. It makes a good argument to consider a higher end pre-pro as being something that will provide years of service...

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#95426 - 10/28/15 07:37 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
XenonMan Offline
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Registered: 04/08/08
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Loc: Columbus,North Carolina
I absolutely agree with AVfan that this could be deja vu all over again. I want an update about progress...
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Music system
Model 990/7500/Magnepan 1.6 QRs/Technics SL1200 MK2/Aperion S-12 Subwoofer/OWA3/Sony NS75H DVD
APC H15 Power Conditioner

TV System
Large Advent Loudspeakers/ Polk center/Monoprice surrounds/Panasonic Viera 42 inch/Onkyo HT-RC260/Sony BDP S590/Directv


Home Theater System
Onkyo PR-SC886/Outlaw 7125 Klipsch RF-82 L/R,RC-62 center, RB-35 SR/SL, BENQ HT1075, Outlaw LFM1-EX/OPPO BDP-83/Directv
Harmony ONE
Blue Jeans and Monoprice interconnects
APC H15 Power Conditioner

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#95427 - 10/29/15 12:08 AM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: renov8r]
AvFan Offline
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Registered: 09/12/05
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Loc: El Cajon, California
My 990 has been a stellar performer for many years and I consider it an exceptional value. Outlaw has created many other products that share the 990's bang-for-the-buck. The problem is the 990 is very outdated and I have had to resort to work arounds with newer components to have a home theater experience. Since I bought my 990 Outlaw has tried to bring to market three pre/pros with only one, the 975, available. Looking back it seemed to me those two pre/pros were delayed and then cancelled in part because of the cutting edge technology they wanted to incorporate into them. With Atmos it looks like Outlaw is trying to include advance features that most customers won't use. No, we don't know it is these advanced features are causing the delay, but we don't really know what is causing the delay. I sincerely hope the past isn't an indication of what will happen with the development of their latest pre/pro. Based upon my experience with the 990 I want to continue to be an Outlaw customer just sooner rather than later.

Lastly, I appreciate that Outlaw provides us a forum to talk about their products and on occasion to vent our gripes.
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Outlaw 976 | ATI 2005 | M&K 850s Left, Center & Right, Surround-55s, MX-70B Sub | Harmony 950 remote | Panamax 5100 | OPPO UDP-203 | LG OLED55B7

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#95428 - 10/29/15 10:58 AM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
butchgo Offline
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Registered: 06/22/07
Posts: 369
Loc: Southern Oregon coast
+1
My 990 has served me well all these years and I hope it continues to do so until Outlaw comes out with their new Pre/Pro.
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93" Carl's Place Flexiwhite DIY screen
Outlaw 976 Pre/Pro
Outlaw 7500 for LCR & L/R surrounds
1- Emotiva Mini X-A100 for rear surrounds
2- Outlaw LFM-1 EX subs
Oppo BDP-105 Blu-ray/DVD/SACD player
Outlaw LCR (Snell Labs) for center channel duty
Tekton Lore monitors L/R
4- Emotiva ERD-1s surround speakers
Monster HTS3600MKII power center

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#95457 - 11/04/15 03:03 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
Retep Offline
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Registered: 01/19/06
Posts: 266
Loc: Tauranga, New Zealand
I'd like to see Outlaw fulfill area's that other manufacturers do not, but I think I'm in the minority here. If I want 5.1 thru 11.2 with built in room correction, there's a tons of options out there and in all price ranges. For me my next processor is something that has more than 11.2 channels. I'd like to see a unit with 16 or more channels and I don't mind if they leave out room correction unless it's going to be something on the level of dirac. I think that would be a rather expensive unit in the $5K plus range, so I don't see Outlaw producing something like this, but I'd love it if they did.

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#95478 - 11/13/15 05:36 PM Re: New Outlaw Atmos processor [Re: XenonMan]
renov8r Offline
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Registered: 11/13/02
Posts: 336
Loc: Illinois
I keep seeing more teasers for the the Anthem AVM60 and I can't help but wonder how things are going with the Outlaw's efforts to bring their similarly features Atmos pre-pro to market... http://www.audioholics.com/av-receiver-reviews/anthem-mrx-520-720-1120-receivers-and-avm60-processor

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