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#32477 - 08/08/09 03:32 PM Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
Sweet Spot Offline
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I can't find my manual at the moment, (it's buried in its packaging with other manuals somewhere) and I'm actually listening to music at the moment so I can't turn the thing around.

Is the RR2150 equipped to handle both 110/220W ? Most electronics such as laptops will handle it just fine with an outlet adapter, but I just want to make sure that I don't fry my precious !

Forgive me if the question is that which an third grader would be able to answer, moving (especially to another country) really takes its toll on one's nerves !

Best,

Doug

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#32478 - 08/08/09 03:51 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Just from looking at the huge rear panel picture , it looks to be 120V only. The manual also says 120V, 60Hz. Looks like you'd need a step-down transformer.
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#32479 - 08/08/09 04:00 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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OH my. Thanks G. Tru-Blu just sent me a message with the same sentiment, and now I'm really bummed out. I'd imagine that such transformers are fairly costly ? Time to use the ol' Google !

Doug

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#32480 - 08/08/09 04:38 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Well, apparently step down voltage transformers aren't terribly expensive, depending on the maximum power consumption of each item, but now the thing is to find a place which sells VERY reliable products.

If anybody has any information (perhaps the Outlaw staff have some suggestions, Scott ?) regarding my query, I'd seriously appreciate it !

Doug

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#32481 - 08/08/09 04:49 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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I'd be offly careful about that, the current difference isn't just voltage, it also involves phase. My last experience with this was back in the 90's when I tried to use an american TV for my daughters US VCR and game console in Scotland . No damage to the VCR or game console, but it fried the TV in less than a month.
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#32482 - 08/08/09 05:08 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Registered: 11/19/05
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OK Doug,

You pushed us to the edge of sympathy to take care of a loyal Outlaw customer.

We actually do have in stock brand new dedicated 230 volt Model 2150 units which among other things, are also set to receive European AM and FM.
Call Scott Monday and we will see if we can work out something with you.

Peter

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#32483 - 08/08/09 05:18 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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I'll be honest Koyaan, I haven't the slightest idea as to where and how phase comes into the equation. Is it possible that it applies only to television sets ? As an aside, didn't you have to use a PAL regulated television set vs. an NTSC one ?

Doug

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#32484 - 08/08/09 06:51 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Phase is the same (both are single phase), but frequency is different (60Hz in the US, 50Hz in Europe) as well as the different voltage. There are units specifically built to allow 120V/60Hz units to operate on 220V/50Hz. That being said, Peter's offer (lining up some sort of swap for a unit with a power supply that can operate on 220V/50Hz) is even simpler - especially with the different tuner.

Europe does use PAL instead of NTSC for its standard definition video format (and the difference between 50Hz and 60Hz means that you have to be careful with PAL/NTSC conversion to avoid speeding up or slowing down the signal). Neither PAL nor NTSC apply with HD source material, but it will still matter for DVD's and other SD video sources.
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#32485 - 08/08/09 11:09 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Wow, what an amazing offer, PeterT!! And the fact that 230V units are actually in production suggests that word about the RR2150 has gotten out in some European countries…my guess would be Germany or the Netherlands, though the UK is also a possibility. How cool is that? cool
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#32486 - 08/09/09 01:07 PM Re: Moving to Europe. Will RR2150 survive the current ?
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Actually, we have been turning down requests from overseas customers to buy 2150's ever since we were on the cover of Stereophile. To make the conversion, it was not so straightforward. Anyway, we just received a small run of fully converted 2150's last week and Doug's post was coincidentally perfectly timed.

If we can work out something, he will be the first. (Of course they are $18,000 each Doug. wink )

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