#93549 - 10/08/13 10:12 PM
975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/06/06
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Loc: So Cal
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I was seriously considering the 975, both for video and music, to replace the Denon receiver which is getting a little old and cranky.
But my concern is this statement about the 975, from Audioholics: "the Outlaw processor digitizes all of its analog audio inputs". Please tell me that's not the case! I have a very nice dac, which I'd be using for my music, and don't need another dac to further process the signals...
Other than this, it would be a treat from the sound of all the reviews both pro and here at outlaw. I had my 990 and before that a 950, neither of which gave a lick of trouble.
Thanks for any info.
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#93550 - 10/09/13 01:37 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/11/13
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It does ever so slightly digitize analog, and many reviews have pointed out that the sound difference, the way we have done it is barely noticeable. This unit does not have a pure analog pass thru.
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#93552 - 10/09/13 01:45 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
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Ok, well that's not the end of the world then. I assume there's no "future firmware fix" for that...?
What's the warranty if I buy one of your b-stock? I see it's a little less expensive.
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#93554 - 10/09/13 02:02 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Desperado
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It does ever so slightly digitize analog, and many reviews have pointed out that the sound difference, the way we have done it is barely noticeable. This unit does not have a pure analog pass thru. Sorry but to paraphrase Yoda, "It either does or does not, there is no slightly".
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#93555 - 10/09/13 04:16 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Desperado
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Got to agree with 73Bruin -- if the intent is to say that the A/D conversion process that the 975 applies to all analog inputs is as non-intrusive as possible that is one thing but it just gibberish to say that "slightly digitized". That sort of gibberish makes one sound very untrustworthy -- sorta like if you went to buy a used car and asked if the car was equipped with anti-lock brakes and the answer came back "it has semi-anti-lock brakes"...
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#93556 - 10/09/13 05:21 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
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#93557 - 10/09/13 05:23 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/11/13
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Sorry.. typo !!!.. it it digitized, but with only a slight sound difference! And no software fix for that - the architecture is not available for that feature.
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#93561 - 10/10/13 08:47 AM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Desperado
Registered: 03/30/01
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Loc: Austin, Texas, USA
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Whoa! I had not heard that it digitzes everything. Interesting.
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#93562 - 10/10/13 10:54 AM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Gunslinger
Registered: 02/06/06
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Loc: So Cal
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Wonder how many other pre/processor/receivers do the same thing, i.e. "digitize" analog prior to output? I hadn't put a lot of thought into it until I got a DAC.
The unit is tempting in spite of this, I like the simplicity and that it supports legacy, still have an occasional user (kids) who does something either component or composite video.
Edited by syvlvr (10/10/13 10:59 AM)
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#93563 - 10/10/13 01:59 PM
Re: 975 truly converts all to digital even analog?
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Desperado
Registered: 11/11/09
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Loc: Canton, MI
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Interesting thoughts...
Anyone ever compare the 975 analog input with the RR2150 analog inputs for 2-channel material to see if there was a noticable SQ difference?
I might have to try this in my free time.
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